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THE STORY AND THE MATHS

Eighty-five ways
to tie it.

Most people know one tie knot. Mathematicians found many more.

In 1999 two physicists at Cambridge's Cavendish Laboratory treated the tie knot as a sequence of moves and counted every one. Behind the knot sits a longer story, reaching back to soldiers' scarves in the 1600s.

Hands knotting a navy silk tie under a crisp white shirt collar, beside a window in soft morning light
AI-generated image, not a photograph of a real person or place.

THREE MOVES is all it takes

  • Left, right or centre
  • Thirteen look balanced
  • Tip to the buckle
  • An everyday knot, counted

THE SHORT ANSWER

More knots than
you would think.

A count from 1999, a recount from 2014,
and a word that came from the battlefield.

THE MATHS

85 ways, 13 balanced

Thomas Fink and Yong Mao counted 85 ways to tie a necktie. Judged on symmetry and balance, only 13 made the cut.

Count the knots

THE HISTORY

From soldiers' scarves

The word cravat appears in French in the early 1600s, describing the neck scarves of Croatian mercenaries in the Thirty Years' War.

Read the story

THE KNOT

Four classic knots

The four-in-hand, Windsor, half-Windsor and Pratt are the traditional four. The Pratt only arrived in 1989.

Tie one

A QUICK COUNT

How big is
the tie-knot world?

Pick a question to see the number researchers came up with. The bar shows roughly how large each number is compared with the others.

Knot count

Choose a question
The simplest possible knot3 moves

In the Fink and Mao model, the simplest tie knot takes just three moves.

The most complicated in 19999 moves

Their count included two complicated knots of nine moves each.

Knots judged aesthetic13

Of all the knots they found, only 13 were judged aesthetic on symmetry and balance, and nine of those were new.

All knots in the 1999 count85

Fink and Mao used ideas from statistical mechanics, including random walks, to find 85 ways to tie a necktie.

The 2014 recount177,147

Allowing tucks in the middle of a knot, folded surfaces and up to 11 windings, the recount from KTH in Stockholm reached 177,147.

Sources: Physics World review of The 85 Ways to Tie a Tie; Plus Magazine, May 1999; Smithsonian Magazine, February 2014.

Figures from Fink and Mao (Nature, 1999) as reported by Physics World and Plus Magazine, and from Mikael Vejdemo-Johansson's 2014 recount as reported by Smithsonian Magazine.

TWO NUMBERS WORTH KNOWING

One knot,
two very different counts.

Same tie, different rules.
Change the assumptions and the count explodes.

85

Ways to tie a necktie, Fink and Mao

Published in Nature in 1999. Their rule: each move can only be followed by one of two alternatives, so after a move to the right the next must go left or to the centre. The tuck came only at the end, with a limit of 8 windings.

CAMBRIDGE · 1999

177,147

Ways to tie a necktie, revised count

Mikael Vejdemo-Johansson dropped the assumptions that a tuck only comes at the end and that knots sit on a flat stretch of fabric, and raised the winding limit to 11.

KTH STOCKHOLM · 2014

The recount was reportedly inspired by the elaborate tie knots in the film The Matrix Reloaded. Plus Magazine noted that only one new tie knot had appeared in the 50 years before the 1999 study.

THE FOUR-IN-HAND, STEP BY STEP

The everyday knot,
in four steps.

The four-in-hand is one of the knots the Cambridge study rated aesthetic. This is the common way to tie it, standing in front of a mirror.

  • Start long on the left

    Drape the tie with the wide end on your left, hanging about 12 inches below the narrow end.

  • Cross and wrap

    Cross the wide end over the narrow end, wrap it behind, then bring it back across the front.

  • Up and through

    Pull the wide end up through the loop around your neck, then down through the front loop you just made.

  • Tighten to the buckle

    Slide the knot up by pulling the narrow end. Ideally the tip of the tie should touch your belt buckle.

Five knotted silk neckties in navy, burgundy, green, grey and mustard laid side by side on a pale linen cloth
AI-generated image, not a photograph of a real person or place.

WHERE THE TIE CAME FROM

A battlefield scarf
became a habit.

A folded printed cotton neckcloth with a hunting-scene border laid on a dark wooden table, in museum-style light
AI-generated image, not a photograph of a real person or place.

Croatian soldiers in the Thirty Years' War wore red neck scarves of cotton or silk. The French army recruited Croats into regiments later named the Royal Cravates, and King Louis XIV brought the cravat into French fashion, from where it spread across Europe.

In Victorian England the neckcloth, a large square folded diagonally, folded again and tied in a precise knot, was essential to a gentleman's dress. The term fell out of use around the mid-19th century, and the rise of bourgeois society brought the necktie we know.

Questions

Questions people ask

How many ways are there to tie a tie?

It depends on the rules. Fink and Mao counted 85 in 1999. A 2014 recount that allowed tucks in the middle of a knot and up to 11 windings found 177,147.

What are the classic tie knots?

Plus Magazine lists four traditional knots: the four-in-hand, the Windsor, the half-Windsor and the Pratt. The Pratt was introduced on the cover of the New York Times in 1989.

Did the Duke of Windsor invent the Windsor knot?

Apparently not, according to the Fink and Mao book as reviewed by Physics World.

Why is a tie called a cravat in some languages?

The word comes from the French cravate, first used in the early 1600s for the scarves of Croatian mercenaries. German Krawatte, Spanish corbata and Italian cravatta keep the link.

How long should a tie hang?

A common guideline is that the tip of the tie should touch your belt buckle. Adjust the length by pulling the narrow end before you tighten the knot.

Sources

Where the facts come from

  1. Physics World: Solving a knotty problem (review of The 85 Ways to Tie a Tie)
  2. Plus Magazine: A knotty sartorial question
  3. Smithsonian Magazine: Mathematician calculates 177,147 ways to tie a tie
  4. NPR: How the word cravat came from the battlefields of 17th-century Europe
  5. V&A Collections: Cravat (neckcloth), England, 1840-1900
  6. The State News: How to tie the knot

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